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...which may just have been building for some time.

Migraine is not ... a headache.
Depression is not ... the blues.
Autism is not ... bad social skills.
Hyperemesis gravidarum is not ... morning sickness.

If you have, or know somebody who has, any of the problems on the right, this tells you nothing about coping with the problems on the left.

Crossposts: http://mme-hardy.livejournal.com/225804.html

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From:

legionseagle

I don't think your remark is entirely well judged.

One of the most terrifying things that ever happened to me in my entire life happened when I was - what I have colloquially for the last thirty-seven years and (it would appear) apparently completely offensively referred to as - "bolted with on a pony" when I was a shade over my 13th birthday. It was painful, degrading (I experienced first hand that sort of ableism where someone speaks above the head of the person who can only sit down because of the broken leg and assumes that the injured person is deaf,too) and left me with a permanent weakness in the ankle in question.

Technically, I may not have been bolted with. However, I was shit-scared, and the physical and mental effects were permanent. Take the internet from me if you dare.

Edited Date: 2012-12-04 10:56 pm (UTC)

From:

mme_hardy

I don't know from horses, so the news that "bolting" isn't the same as "running away" was news to me.

The point I understood green_knight to be making is that being run away with is, although bad, not the same thing as being bolted with. That's what I meant by the added title "Oh, it's like when I" and the discussion about analogies, and indeed what I meant in the original post.

Your experience with the runaway horse sounds horrible.

From:

legionseagle

Sorry, but read what I said.

green_knight knows perfectly well that you can be killed and maimed just as effectively whether you're run away with or bolted with. What she's doing is saying the first one is the rider's fault and the second isn't. What I'm saying is that may well be true but it doesn't stop the effects hurting.

When you agree with

green_knight what you're actually saying is that riders like me - that is, rather young and incompetent riders - deserved exactly what we got, namely mildly crippling injuries.

From:

green_knight

Nobody deserves to be hurt, ever; and one should try one's best not to put people into the way of the potential injuries. Nor am I saying that it's 'the rider's fault' (if you were a beginner under the control of someone else it's much more likely to have been *their* fault for not training the horse, for not setting up a safe situation, for misjudging the horse's mood/the general situation/your skills, for not teaching you to cope etc.

But even at the best of times, it happens that horses will take off - they're flight animals. Mostly, it can be dealt with.

(I also feel that your 'I was bolted with and got terribly injured' isn't a 'problem' in the context of the discussion. What is the problem are the people who say 'oh, the horse bolted and I was able to shut it down easily' because if you could shut it down easily, _it was not a bolt_.

And again, I am sorry to hear about your injury and the consequences thereof.

From:

recessional

I think that's where the big miscommunication is here? You're not talking about the effect of bolt-vs-runaway on the RIDER. You're talking about its origins in the horse - anxiety issue vs normal prey-animal behaviour.

Either can be equally devastating or equally a non-issue for the rider (see: your story about the first bolt on the unathletic horse) depending on circumstances; but FOR THE HORSE, running away is just a thing, whereas bolting is a panic attack.

(Sorry to intrude, but I both want to check that this is the right reading, and I thought it might be useful to be seriously explicit about it.)