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Colin Robinson in the New York Times, "The Loneliness of the Long-Distance Reader"
  1. People aren't reading novels any more BECAUSE ELECTRONICS.
  2. Professional book reviewers are on the decline.
  3. Publishers are cutting budgets to keep profits level. This is hard on writers. The midlist is dying.
  4. DEATH OF YOUR IMAGINARY LOCAL BOOKSTORE WHERE THEY RECOMMENDED BOOKS.
  5. Newspaper book review sections are smaller, book reviewers are paid less.
  6. The growth of Goodreads and Bookthing is phenomenal. (How do we reconcile this with point 1? Unclear.)
  7. "the range of collective knowledge in pools of this size is incontestable. But it derives from self-selecting volunteers whose authority is hard to gauge. "
  8. Readers recommending books to one another is bad because "another typical Internet characteristic: the “mirroring” of existing tastes at the expense of discovering anything new."
  9. Kindle self-publishing: "But to express discomfort at the attrition of expert opinion is not to defend the previous order’s prerogatives. Nor is it elitist to suggest that making the values and personnel of such professional hierarchies more representative is preferable to dispensing with them"
  10. Writers can't support themselves without a day job.
  11. Writing hobbyists, NaNoWriMo. Paragraph conclusion: "Indeed, to the extent that they expand the mind-boggling proliferation of new titles being published (more than 300,000 in 2012), they are adding to the problem." (Reconcile this with point 1? Show work.)
  12. Peroration (complete): "Faced with a dizzying array of choices and receiving little by way of expert help in making selections, book buyers today are deciding to play it safe, opting to join either the ever-larger audiences for blockbusters or the minuscule readerships of a vast range of specialist titles. In this bifurcation, the mid-list, publishing’s experimental laboratory, is being abandoned."
  13. Colin Robinson is the co-publisher of OR Books.

I was going to dissect, point-by-point, what self-indulgent rubbish this is, but I think it speaks for itself.

Date: 2014-01-05 07:26 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] caulkhead
14a Rocks fall, everyone dies.

See also Philip Hensher in today's Observer, though without the reviewer angle. Bah, I say.

Date: 2014-01-05 07:40 pm (UTC)
recessional: a photo image of feet in sparkly red shoes (Default)
From: [personal profile] recessional
10: . . . . . . REALLY? REALLY? AUGH.

Date: 2014-01-06 12:08 am (UTC)
kore: (Default)
From: [personal profile] kore
He seems to think every writer before e-publishing was a combination of Dickens and JK Rowling. But through the power of midlists.

Date: 2014-01-05 07:55 pm (UTC)
perennialanna: Plum Blossom (Default)
From: [personal profile] perennialanna
8. OH REALLY?

Because no newspaper review ever persuaded me to dip my toes into sci-fi, or Golden Age detective novels, or fantasy-beyond-Tolkein-and-Pratchett, or any of the myriad other genres my mother didn't believe in (nor did the newspapers). Mostly, it was [personal profile] caulkhead, and the people she's introduced me to.
Edited Date: 2014-01-05 07:56 pm (UTC)

Date: 2014-01-05 08:11 pm (UTC)
rachelmanija: (Oh noes!)
From: [personal profile] rachelmanija
Shorter Colin Robinson: People are reading and writing more than ever, but it's the wrong books and also largely e-books, so it doesn't count.

Date: 2014-01-05 09:55 pm (UTC)
ellen_fremedon: overlapping pages from Beowulf manuscript, one with a large rubric, on a maroon ground (Default)
From: [personal profile] ellen_fremedon
Possibly even shorter: People are reading more than ever, but they're still not reading MY books. There is no way I could possibly be to blame!

Date: 2014-01-06 03:09 am (UTC)
ironed_orchid: watercolour and pen style sketch of a brown tabby cat curl up with her head looking up at the viewer and her front paw stretched out on the left (Default)
From: [personal profile] ironed_orchid
HEE! YES!

Date: 2014-01-06 12:02 am (UTC)
kore: (Default)
From: [personal profile] kore
.....this is why I <3 you.

Date: 2014-01-05 08:28 pm (UTC)
sara: Once you visit...you won't want to leave the City of Books (books)
From: [personal profile] sara
I am proud to be part of the problem!

*goes back to reading trashy genre fiction on an e-reader and buying used paperbacks at the thrift store, none of which is Actual NYT Approved Reader Behavior*

Date: 2014-01-05 08:30 pm (UTC)
laurashapiro: a woman sits at a kitchen table reading a book, cup of tea in hand. Table has a sliced apple and teapot. A cat looks on. (Default)
From: [personal profile] laurashapiro
This is a thing of beauty.

Date: 2014-01-05 08:34 pm (UTC)
skygiants: Jareth, from Labyrinth, with his hands to his cheeks as he gasps (le gasp)
From: [personal profile] skygiants
HOW ARE WE EVER GOING TO REACH OUR QUOTA OF LITERARY NOVELS ABOUT MIDDLE-AGED PROFESSORS HAVING MID-LIFE CRISES NOW

Date: 2014-01-06 12:03 am (UTC)
kore: (Default)
From: [personal profile] kore
JONATHAN FRANZEN WEEPS FOR HUMANITY. Oh wait this guy isn't Jonathan Franzen! (seriously for like half the article I thought he was)

Date: 2014-01-05 08:47 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] kerrypolka
From OR Books' about page, "We employ exciting promotion with highly creative use of video and the Internet."

GO ON.

(Which is not to mock highly creative use of video and the Internet, of course, but i. I highly doubt they are, actually, highly creative and ii. the above sentence just mostly seems confused, as does the article.)

Date: 2014-01-06 12:04 am (UTC)
kore: (Default)
From: [personal profile] kore
They are also publishing like Gordon Lish's first creative work in three thousand years! That is just what will save publishing. Uh, their new type of publishing.

Date: 2014-01-06 12:01 am (UTC)
kore: (Default)
From: [personal profile] kore
AHAHAHA I ranted about that to dear friends via email, unfortunately (for them) with much less light and more heat.


Man, I dunno why the fuck people get SO worked up about NaNo. Would the same idiots start ranting about community orchestras and amateur dramatic societies and choirs and weekend watercolorists? Why is Art only reserved for people who can make money at it? Why is "artist" such a fought-over title? Because there is so little other actual compensation for artists in American society? Are these rhetorical questions?

-- He's really entirely wrong about Goodreads. Goodreads sucks for other, entirely different reasons (virtually no comment moderation, lots of male users being assholes SEE ABOVE, the web two dot oh seep of commerce into personalization) but when I was active on it I could get six to eight recs a day from a circle of people with roughly the same taste (after all, that's why we were friends) of books I'd never heard of. If Goodreads was good at anything it was 'virtualizing' the old-fashioned word-of-mouth, which is why Amazon was desperate to acquire it. Because a book can get great 'professional' reviews and still tank! Which that guy seems to think is UNPOSSIBLE.

Oh ghod I'm ranting all over again. Jesus that article was so bad bad bad bad. Worse than the other nytimes stupid-ass opinion piece about the woman who decided that juicing kale had ruined her teeth and her thyroid gland.

Date: 2014-01-06 03:03 am (UTC)
adrian_turtle: (Default)
From: [personal profile] adrian_turtle
WTF? Juicing it really ought to solve the problem of getting it stuck in your teeth.

Date: 2014-01-06 03:11 am (UTC)
kore: (Default)
From: [personal profile] kore
Oh no, it was even more stupid than that:

And then, as if my world was not sufficiently rocked, I went to the dentist, who said I had five cavities and asked if I snacked on candy and sodas all day long. I was insulted. Indignant. What did he take me for? No, I answered. I don’t eat sugar and drink only fresh vegetable juices — no longer kale, of course, but carrot and celery, which I’m still allowed. And filtered water with lemon.

“You’d be better off with chocolate and cola,” he said. Apparently the natural sugars in fruit and vegetable juices can cause decay, and lemon, though high in vitamin C and bioflavonoids which may prevent cancer, had eroded the enamel that protected my teeth.


http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/01/01/kale-juicing-trouble-ahead/

Date: 2014-01-06 10:55 pm (UTC)
rinue: (Default)
From: [personal profile] rinue
Wait - lemon is acidic? What about organic lemon?

Date: 2014-01-06 03:11 am (UTC)
recessional: a photo image of feet in sparkly red shoes (Default)
From: [personal profile] recessional
Honestly as someone originally trained to a career as a professional classical vocalist, the writing world is obsessed with and venerates pro status to an exent I have not found in either the music or theatre fields, and I find it extremely off-putting.

Date: 2014-01-06 03:13 am (UTC)
kore: (Default)
From: [personal profile] kore
Yeah, it's like everyone swallowed Fitzgerald's putdown to his wife: "I hope you realize the biggest difference in the arts is between the amateur and the professional." WTF.

Date: 2014-01-06 03:24 am (UTC)
recessional: a photo image of feet in sparkly red shoes (Default)
From: [personal profile] recessional
It really is. Whereas, as a musician, it always felt like everyone was aware that somewhere out there is pretty much guaranteed to be an amazing voice or incredible piano skill that happens to be owned by someone who doesn't like performing/ doesn't like the pro lifestyle (because in many ways it sucks).

I dunno. I only have my anecdata and that of friends, but the contempt for non-pros in writing circles irritates the fuck out of me.

Date: 2014-01-06 03:14 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] lnhammer
With reason.

---L.

Date: 2014-01-05 07:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jeriendhal.livejournal.com
You got watch out for self-published crap like Common Sense, oh yeah.

And exactly how many mid-list writers ever supported themselves without a day job?

Date: 2014-01-05 07:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mme-hardy.livejournal.com
While the Saturday Evening Post was in its prime, you could make a living on short stories. Contemplate that for a moment.

Re:

Date: 2014-01-05 08:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rachelmanija.livejournal.com
It's only in recent years and entirely thanks to e-publishing that writers have again been able to make a living on short stories.

Date: 2014-01-05 08:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] that-which.livejournal.com
I'm missing the part where having a very few people in disproportionately powerful venues reviewing books is likely to help avoid "...the “mirroring” of existing tastes at the expense of discovering anything new." I also really kind of doubt that anyone actually buys books based on the credentials of the reviewer rather than whether they've found that they tend to enjoy the books the reviewer recommends, which sort of also works when crowdsourcing.

Date: 2014-01-05 10:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] movingfinger.livejournal.com
There are reviews and there are reviews, serving different purposes. So. It depends.

If Mary Beard reviews a book and tells me it is good, I am more likely to believe her and buy the book than if certain other reviewers do, because she knows what she is talking about and the others... less so.

Date: 2014-01-06 10:14 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
There's also personal taste to consider; some reviewers align well because they like the same things, or at least have a consistent and reliable map onto one's own taste.

Date: 2014-01-06 07:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] viktor-haag.livejournal.com
That was me -- iPad not logged in before I noticed.

Date: 2014-01-05 09:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] viktor-haag.livejournal.com
Ahem. Some of us are reading moar novelz now, BECAUSE ELECTRONICS (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EPUB). Sheesh.

Date: 2014-01-05 09:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] viktor-haag.livejournal.com
Re 10. I'd like to see actual demographic numbers. How many writers today live solely off the avails of their writing (and don't just count novels). How many writers one hundred years ago lived solely off the avails of their writing (not just novels, but no patrons, no independent family wealth).

I wouldn't be at all surprised to see the numbers suggest things that run counter to the "ohnoz modrun society is unkultured krap" notions...

Date: 2014-01-06 03:10 pm (UTC)
madrobins: It's a meatloaf.  Dressed up like a bunny.  (Default)
From: [personal profile] madrobins
Oh dear. Is the sky falling again, my precious?

Date: 2014-01-08 03:00 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] shezan.livejournal.com
Good lord, what tripe.

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