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 Pebble just announced that they'd been bought by Fitbit.  Fitbit is taking the software people and the intellectual property, firing everybody else, and shutting down manufacturing and warranty immediately.   This sort of thing happens in Silicon Valley.

What is unusual is the cheerful way Pebble chose to announce all this.   Note in particular this image:
Cheerful engineers waving signs

We'll never deliver the products you Kickstarted, the products you bought are dead on your wrist, but hey, at least the engineers are having fun joking about it!

P.S.  Guy on the left:  get a fedora that fits.

Date: 2016-12-07 11:39 pm (UTC)
ironed_orchid: watercolour and pen style sketch of a brown tabby cat curl up with her head looking up at the viewer and her front paw stretched out on the left (Default)
From: [personal profile] ironed_orchid
Wow.

The comments are abut as angry as you'd expect. I see they have changed the refund turn around.

Date: 2016-12-08 12:48 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] movingfinger
Of the four Kickstarter projects I have ever backed (I'm reeeally wary of this model), just one has produced and delivered the thing it was designed to support. No coincidence: that one project was being carried out by someone I know personally who was engaged with his project and was motivated to complete it, someone who I knew had already completed other, non-Kickstarter-sponsored, big long-term art projects.

Of the others, zilch. If I include other "pay now to help us complete this, receive your item later" appeals over the years, the average goes down to around 10% completed I think.

Date: 2016-12-08 02:37 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] castiron
The only thing I've supported on Kickstarter is a book from a company that I'm familiar with and who've successfully fulfilled their obligations in previous Kickstarters. They're sending regular updates, and I'm confident that I will receive the book when they say I will.

There is also a reason why this is the only project I've ever supported on Kickstarter.

Date: 2016-12-08 05:07 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] kore
Yeah, I've supported an artist via Kickstarter who does the Inktober thing every year so far, and that means all the art is done already and they finance a print run, make a profit and I get a nice art book. Trying to develop any kind of manufacturing thing on Kickstarter just seems like a nightmare.

Date: 2016-12-08 08:23 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] rydra_wong
Yeah, I've had good results backing books, comics and films.

just about nobody who Kickstarts a physical object has any idea just how hard manufacturing is

Sounds accurate.

Date: 2016-12-08 04:31 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] telophase
just about nobody who Kickstarts a physical object has any idea just how hard manufacturing is,

Yup. I've backed a number of Kickstarters and only one has failed to deliver, but I believe only one, maybe two, of them have arrived on time. Mostly it seems that the people estimating the time it takes to manufacture forget to factor in time for getting a prototype that fails to live up to expectations and having to go back for one or more rounds of redesign.

Date: 2016-12-09 03:44 am (UTC)
ironed_orchid: watercolour and pen style sketch of a brown tabby cat curl up with her head looking up at the viewer and her front paw stretched out on the left (Default)
From: [personal profile] ironed_orchid
I've mostly backed books and CDs, and all have arrived. Probably because people understand how to make books and CDs. It's the "develop this new gadget" projects which seem to have the most trouble.

Date: 2016-12-08 05:02 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] kore
Much of our team and resources will join Fitbit to deliver new “moments of awesome” in future Fitbit products, developer tools, and experiences

Ahahaha that's what you think, pally.

One-to-one Pebble support is no longer available. Any Pebble currently out in the wild is no longer covered by or eligible for warranty exchange.

WOW. I R Not a Lawyer, but that seems like it could land them in some deep shit.

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