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Power can be chancy up here, what with high winds and wildfires. We'd like to install a generator. The local electrical contractors sent a request for a permit to the planning department. They got back:

Your building permit application was referred to the Planning Division of Mendocino County Planning and Building Services for approval. Please be advised that the Planning Division is not able to approve your building permit at this time. The proposed Propane/Generator installation does not meet the criteria for an exemption. The project site is designated as Highly Scenic and Coastal Development Permit is required.


Not gonna lie, it is Highly Scenic. It'll be interesting to see if there's a way to hide the generator that complies with the planning board's esthetics, or whether it's simply a no-go.

Date: 2022-03-19 12:47 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] movingfinger
There are similar issues here (I have not personally faced them). A fence may be acceptable as screening, particularly if plantings mask the fence. Underground installation, in an area that gets occasional torrential rain, is probably not great for the generator, but might work for the tank. And put the generator on the side of the house least visible to others, I guess, although that may be difficult. Modern generators are not very obtrusive and the noise is more of a problem than the footprint.

Date: 2022-03-19 06:13 pm (UTC)
movingfinger: (Default)
From: [personal profile] movingfinger
I wouldn't approve a diesel generator myself, but aboveground propane in a fire zone isn't desirable either...

Date: 2022-03-19 12:52 am (UTC)
lilysea: Serious (Default)
From: [personal profile] lilysea
I don't know how dangerous the wildfires in your area are, but it would seem that if home generators allow water pumps to run (for firefighting) they could be lifesaving

I <3 aesthetics and natural beauty but

lifesaving > aesthetics

Date: 2022-03-19 06:15 pm (UTC)
movingfinger: (Default)
From: [personal profile] movingfinger
Yeah, I agree, which is why a wooden fence enclosure around it might work. You can also baffle the inside of the fence to reduce the noise emitted. The specs may tell you noise levels are fine, but I promise you they are not fine.

Date: 2022-03-19 10:01 am (UTC)
dsrtao: dsr as a LEGO minifig (Default)
From: [personal profile] dsrtao
The secret to dealing with the conservation committee around here (on the other coast, two towns south of Concord) is to read the previously published permits and decisions for the last 3-4 years, and ask for something very close to what has been approved.

Is there a local style of shed or other small outbuilding that could be used to disguise and quiet a propane tank and generator?

Date: 2022-03-19 07:46 pm (UTC)
cofax7: climbing on an abbey wall  (Default)
From: [personal profile] cofax7
This here.

Speaking as someone who has to deal with these regulators frequently, but from a position of much more power than a local homeowner.

I also suspect that many of your neighbors didn't bother to get permits for their emergency generators.

Date: 2022-03-19 11:57 am (UTC)
armiphlage: Ukraine (Default)
From: [personal profile] armiphlage
Would a Tesla Powerwall be an option?

Date: 2022-03-19 12:44 pm (UTC)
oursin: Brush the Wandering Hedgehog by the fire (Default)
From: [personal profile] oursin
Enclose it in a folly? - cf 'Queen Victoria's Elephant House', which is actually an electricity substation in Mayfair.

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