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Dec. 16th, 2013 09:46 am
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Oh, the chambermaid came to the door
Says, "Get up, you lazy sinner
We need those sheets for a tablecloth
And it's almost time for dinner!"

-- "No Booze Today!"

That was an song I learned in the 1960s, from a children's album. It was already forgotten in children's culture; I never heard it anywhere else. You can judge how obsolete the song was because it mentioned sending a child to the saloon with a growler to get beer, a custom I doubt revived after Prohibition.

Remembering the song did make me wonder where the boarding-house went. It was a city institution in America throughout the last part of the 19th century and at least until World War II. A boarding house gave you a bedroom, access to common rooms, and two meals a day. Young women going to the city were sent to "respectable" boarding-houses that would keep a watchful eye on their clientele. Jokes said that young men married just to get out of the boarding houses.

Then they went poof. What happened? When and how did single Americans decide that they'd put up with their own cooking in exchange for privacy?

Edit: My father, born 1929, habitually referred to grabbing a serving dish across somebody else -- as opposed to asking for it to be passed -- as "a boarding-house reach", both when he did it and when a child did it.

Date: 2013-12-16 06:32 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] nineveh_uk
In addition to the elements of having social freedom and it being 'respectable' to live on your own (especially for younger women) I think there must be a large element in it of practicalities of living alone without that being a full-iime job. If the house doesn't have a housekeeper, it needs services, whether that's services or a gas-ring and indoor plumbing.

ETA: I always liked the house-keeping of young women living semi- on their own, semi-boarding in things like the Anne books. How they did it, but also the freedom that it represented.
Edited Date: 2013-12-16 06:33 pm (UTC)

Date: 2013-12-16 09:19 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] lizbee
Melbourne still has boarding houses! Most are decrepit hovels that hold too many people, ignore the fire codes and charge exorbitant amounts of rent, but there are a few respectable ones. I used to walk past one every day when I worked at Borders. It catered to mostly international students, particularly young Asian men and women leaving home for the first time.

Date: 2013-12-16 11:21 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] alexbayleaf
I lived in one for a while, in the 1990s, when I was otherwise homeless. It was *very* loosely attached to the university I was at... not actually part of it, but across the road and mostly housed students, often international/country ones. I had a single room, shared bathroom, breakfast provided, and I forget what the dinner situation was but I think there was a basic meal provided (curry and rice, something like that) or you could use a communal kitchen.

I read an article not too long ago about a boarding house in Manhattan, a respectable one for women even, that is thriving in this day and age. I can't find a link offhand though.

Finally, in the town I just moved to, right by the train station there is an honest to god TEMPERANCE HOSTEL that is still in operation, and has been continuously, AFAIK, since the 1880s when it was founded: http://reidsguesthouse.com.au/ They don't advertise it on the site but I believe they also offer some longer-term accommodation.

I still say "boarding house reach", too.

Date: 2013-12-16 11:30 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] alexbayleaf
Oh, and googling for boarding houses in this town, I just found this ad for a house literally one block from here, which I noticed the other day as it is VERY distinctive, which is registered as a 39-person boarding house (though not currently in use as such). A bit of googling tells me it was a guest house called "Wandella" but I can't find much else.

Date: 2013-12-16 11:57 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] staranise
I would love if respectable boarding-houses were still a thing.

Date: 2013-12-17 03:03 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] sophia_helix
My dad, b. 1954, makes the same reference. But his mother was born in Brooklyn in 1923, so maybe that's it.

Date: 2013-12-17 04:01 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] sara
Is there not a growler culture down there? We have them up here though you can't send children.

Date: 2013-12-17 04:35 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] sara
Hunh. Here you can buy beer by the growler, like, at our local gas station. Of course, our local gas station also sells regionally-produced biofuels, because we're just that superior to other lifeforms. ;>

Date: 2013-12-17 07:51 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] minim_calibre
Seattle's got a thriving growler culture. I keep forgetting to a: wash my stockpile of growlers and b: take them up to Chuck's Hop Shop for embeerening.

Date: 2013-12-17 12:07 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] alexbayleaf
ISTR a Wisconsonian Wiscon-goer, whose family are brewers, bringing growlers to one of the parties I was at a couple of years ago.

Date: 2013-12-17 07:01 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] meara
I have also heard "boarding house reach" used, possibly by my parents? Not sure where I got that one. And in a way they are coming back--if you google "apodments" (which autocorrect wants to be "app dementia"??) in Seattle, some of them have shared kitchen/living areas. ( others are just tiny studios). I think also, there weren't so many kids in college, living in dorms?

Date: 2013-12-17 03:31 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] redstarrobot
I love the idea of boarding houses; the independence of being able to afford being on your own, and not having a second full-time job of cooking and cleaning at home. But I suspect that they relied on how undervalued the labor of women and immigrants was to make the cooking and cleaning and laundry affordable, and eventually it just became cheaper to put a coin-op laundry in the basement and cookers in the units.

Date: 2013-12-16 06:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] harvey-rrit.livejournal.com
"...When and how did single Americans decide that they'd put up with their own cooking in exchange for privacy?..."

It was 1947, and it involved something that happened in New Mexico.

Date: 2013-12-16 06:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] athenais.livejournal.com
And did they gave way to the SRO type of hotels? It's an interesting question.

Date: 2013-12-16 07:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tavella.livejournal.com
That's a really interesting question! This Boston Globe article says they were dwindling even in the 1930s.

And look, a reading list!

Date: 2013-12-16 07:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mme-hardy.livejournal.com
[Wendy] Gamber, a historian at Indiana University Bloomington, wrote the first book dedicated to boardinghouses as a general phenomenon in 2007. In her accessible “The Boardinghouse in Nineteenth-Century America,” she argues that in a century obsessed with the idealized home, boardinghouses represented a potent contrast: “If homes were private, boardinghouses were public,” she writes. “If homes nurtured virtue, boardinghouses bred vice.”
...
Boardinghouses “served people who really [couldn’t] get a foothold in urban space any other way,” explained Betsy Klimasmith, an English professor at the University of Massachusetts Boston and author of a 2005 book about urban domesticity in American literature.

Also also wik

Date: 2013-12-16 07:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mme-hardy.livejournal.com
A new book by David Faflik, “Boarding Out” (Northwestern University Press), argues that boardinghouses fundamentally reshaped the consciousness of the 19th century, particularly as seen through literature.

With regard to the time given in the article, "Stage Door" (1937) is set in a boarding-house. I've definitely read passing memoir references to war workers living in boardinghouses, though. There was a housing shortage, and that may have prolonged boardinghouses' lifespan.

Re: Also also wik

Date: 2013-12-16 08:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] houseboatonstyx.livejournal.com
During WWII, a lot of servicemen were stationed away from their own homes, so a lot of spaces were made into private quarters for them. Outdoor staircases were added to make private entrances to second-floor rooms; sections of houses were converted into small apartments; garages became garage apartments; etc.

Our town was full of these, but by the late 40s or early 50s it had only one boardinghouse sfaik. After the war, the servicemen had gone back to their own homes, leaving the new apartments etc as alternatives for people who would formerly have used boarding houses.

'Modern conveniences' also made one's own kitchen, even if small and improvised, competitive with boardinghouse dining.

For a cheerful view, see the old memoir Mama's Boarding House.

Date: 2013-12-16 08:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mme-hardy.livejournal.com
Oh, interesting! Thank you.

Edit: Your point about modern conveniences is very well-taken; you can't easily have a 2-room apartment with its own wood/coal cookstove.
Edited Date: 2013-12-16 08:43 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2013-12-16 11:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] houseboatonstyx.livejournal.com
The post-WWII marriage boom (followed by the Baby Boom) may have shifted some boarding house singles into private apartments with mod. cons. too. My impression is that married couples seldom lived in boarding houses; they waited to marry till they could afford homes of their own.

I wouldn't be surprised if some boarding houses had a 'no babies / no couples' policy; perhaps as much for respectability (marrying before you could afford your own home suggested poor impulse control) as for noise.

Date: 2013-12-16 07:36 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] pameladean
My dad used the term "boarding-house reach" as well, and we still use it in my house today.

P.

Date: 2013-12-17 02:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] resonant.livejournal.com
Zoning laws forced them out of many neighborhoods (often prohibiting guests "not related by blood or marriage"), as they were considered lower-class.

This had the side effect of banning same-sex couples. Some LFBT couples therefore had one person adopt the other.

Date: 2013-12-20 02:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dxmachina.livejournal.com
My parents' house had been used as a boarding house before they bought it in 1966, something I hadn't thought about in a long, long time. It made for a very odd collection of nick-knacks being left behind when we moved in.

I knew the term boarding house reach, although I'm not sure if I heard it from my parents. My main exposure to boarding houses was in movies. The one that comes to mind is The Day the Earth Stood Still, which is centered in one.

When and how did single Americans decide that they'd put up with their own cooking in exchange for privacy?

One thing that also seemed to be happening post-war was the rise of people sharing houses or apartments with others as roommates. To a certain extent, that's the same situation as a boarding house only without the live-in landlord/housekeeper.

Edited Date: 2013-12-20 02:11 pm (UTC)

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