More on the Facebook study.
Jun. 29th, 2014 12:16 pm The Laboratorium says that it unequivocally violates The Federal Policy for the Protection of Human Subjects, that it passed an IRB (!!!), and that it was funded with Federal money. Why did it pass? “on the grounds that Facebook filters user news feeds all the time, per the agreement.”
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Date: 2014-06-29 08:08 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2014-06-29 08:17 pm (UTC)IRBs are supposed to enforce ethical rules, but "supposed" is the key word. I don't know who is responsible for checking that the enforcers are enforcing the Federal rules.
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Date: 2014-06-29 08:25 pm (UTC)*bangs head repeatedly against desk*
It was an experimental study. The abstract repeatedly calls it an experiment. They manipulated the news feed to see if it produced effects, some of which they knew had the potential to be harmful. There is no meaningful sense in which the data they're describing (as "experimental evidence") existed prior to the experiment. It would not have been the same without the experimental intervention.
WORDS HAVE MEANINGS.
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Date: 2014-06-29 08:35 pm (UTC)edit: whoops, already posted that link.
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Date: 2014-06-29 08:36 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2014-06-30 08:21 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2014-06-29 10:44 pm (UTC)I hope an independent review board audits Cornell's IRB. That study clearly violates ethical guidelines on human experimentation, and should not have been approved.
One key factor in informed consent is that you can't just say, "By signing this paper you agree to take part in a study." You have to be told what the study is, and what the potential risks are.
In this particular case, they were trying to see if they could lower people's mood. That is a clear risk factor for people with depression (or other mental illnesses), and possibly for anyone. But no one was told that they were participating in a study which could lower their mood and possibly exacerbate depression. Nor were depressed people screened out.
In the unusual instances in which the experiment would be ruined if people knew too many details in advance, the requirements for "no danger of harm" are much higher, and people must be individually debriefed and explained what the experiment actually is about immediately afterward.
I mean, they'll probably get away with this because they're a powerful corporate entity. But they shouldn't.
When I was involved in a study where all I did to the subjects was interview them (admittedly on the topic of trauma they'd already gone through), I had to walk them through an 11-page consent form explaining exactly what the study was about, what their rights were, what the risks were, etc, before they agreed to take part. And that was a purely observational study. We weren't doing anything to them intended to affect them at all.
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Date: 2014-06-29 10:49 pm (UTC)Fantastic analysis here:
http://codingconduct.tumblr.com/post/90242838320/frame-clashes-or-why-the-facebook-emotion-experiment
Edit:But thats only an explanation its not an excuse. I totally agree with you that it was unethical and should be penalized.
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Date: 2014-06-29 11:10 pm (UTC)It's true that all advertising is intended to affect unsuspecting people. What I find disturbing is that the rules of a largely unregulated field (advertising) have been applied to an extremely tightly regulated field (human experimentation.)
While it's philosophically true that advertising does experiment-like things, the reason human experimentation by actual scientists is tightly regulated is that it has an absolutely horrific history of abuse - abuse that is not the same as whatever harm has been done by advertising. So it's disturbing to see IRBs apply advertising rules to human experimentation.
I hate to bring up Nazis and I am in no way saying that Facebook is Hitler, but I think one reason people find this viscerally disturbing is that a big part of the reason for IRBs is, in fact, Nazis. And the Tuskegee syphilis experiment. Etc. Unregulated human experimentation has a history of horrific violations that unregulated advertising doesn't. (Cigarette advertising is harmful and misleading and causes many deaths (and so is often regulated) but doesn't quite hit the subjective horror level of Nazis.)
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Date: 2014-06-29 11:15 pm (UTC)I found it viscerally disturbing, myself, because of the possible damage. The experimenters are saying now "Well, we didn't show a BIG effect", but the point is that they did an experiment on manipulating mood without, apparently, giving any thought to adverse effects on the population.
I think that (again from that article) there are two separate failures. One is that the IRB utterly and totally fell down on the job. I saw an interview elsewhere with the editor of the journal; she said that she didn't feel it was appropriate to overrule somebody else's IRB, but now, thinking about it, admits the experiment was a bit creepy. http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2014/06/even-the-editor-of-facebooks-mood-study-thought-it-was-creepy/373649/
Failure two: there's a big group of people performing human experiments who are not only unaware they're performing human experiments but completely unaware of the history of experimental ethics having to do with humans. I don't know how you solve that one.
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Date: 2014-06-29 11:19 pm (UTC)With mood, they couldn't know beforehand what kind of shape their experimental population was in, they couldn't monitor what kind of shape they were in afterwards, there was no way to halt the experiment early and ensure that affected people were safe. That's what makes it visceral for me. On the other hand, I've never gone through experimental ethics training.
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Date: 2014-06-29 11:29 pm (UTC)I wonder if anyone has access to the list of people who were on the "lower mood" group. If any of them committed suicide, attempted suicide, were hospitalized for depression, etc... well, it would be impossible to prove that it was caused by the experiment. But depending on how big the two groups were, it might be possible to get a result like 0.5% of the "low mood" group had [x negative occurrance in time frame] vs. 0.1% of "high mood" group and 0.2% of control group.
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Date: 2014-06-30 07:51 am (UTC)Also, unless those people happened to post about it publicly on Facebook, it'd be impossible to find out. Short of tracking down circa 300,000 people IRL and trying to find out their private medical details.
I mean, it's a set-up where any severe negative outcomes for experimental participants are going to be nicely hidden. Which I suspect the experimenters would not regard as a problem.
The only chance of it coming out now would be if people who had bad mood events in January 2012 and read about the study come forewards. And even then, there's no way -- AFAIK -- for people to find out if they were in the study or not.
(This gets creepier and creepier the more I think about it.)
But I really hope some angry people get lawyered up.
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Date: 2014-06-30 06:03 pm (UTC)Your point still completely stands, of course.
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Date: 2014-06-29 10:54 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2014-06-29 10:58 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2014-06-30 05:18 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2014-06-30 03:12 pm (UTC)Is the Hadoop script, whose use you will see,
When you are given your dataset. And this is the user's consent,
Which in your case you have not got.
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Date: 2014-06-30 09:50 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2014-07-02 05:42 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2014-07-02 05:45 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2014-06-30 12:07 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2014-06-29 09:00 pm (UTC)*grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr*
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Date: 2014-06-29 09:06 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2014-06-29 09:21 pm (UTC)http://codingconduct.tumblr.com/post/90242838320/frame-clashes-or-why-the-facebook-emotion-experiment
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Date: 2014-07-08 06:31 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2014-06-30 05:41 pm (UTC)I find her analysis interesting, but I don't know enough to see whether it's valid. She moves on from analyzing informed-consent rules to saying "Well, if we let Facebook do it, we should certainly let academics analyze it", which seems to me to be glomming the fruit of a poisoned tree.
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Date: 2014-07-08 06:25 pm (UTC)At my university, if a faculty member is doing a collaborative research project with people off campus, they have to go through our training and meet our standards for IRB approval, whether they're lead or not.
See, the thing is, that different IRB committees can interpret Federal law and guidelines differently.
Now that the data is collected (and presumably archived? and available to others?), one might argue it's an existing collection.
I wouldn't touch it, but then I have issues with FB on many levels.
The whole internet, human subjects, privacy, consent, etc. etc. etc. is still in flux at the moment.
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Date: 2014-06-29 08:32 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2014-06-29 08:34 pm (UTC)https://thebrokenspokeblog.wordpress.com/2014/06/29/that-facebook-study-update/
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Date: 2014-06-29 08:39 pm (UTC)Since the researchers apparently manipulated the news feeds, instead of just observing them, that seems pretty suspect to me.
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Date: 2014-06-30 05:24 pm (UTC)It's a giant clusterfuck of information; I'm sure Forbes'll have another theory posted by the end of the day. :-|
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Date: 2014-06-30 05:26 pm (UTC)See also my next post on the formal educational backgrounds of the authors. The lead author, the Facebook guy, would certainly have done experimental ethics training.
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Date: 2014-06-30 05:27 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2014-06-30 08:29 am (UTC)I don't do Facebook, but I don't think the 'what did you expect' commenters are helping their own cause much. Congratulating yourself on being clever enough to avoid a lion in the road because you work from home is no consolation to people who have been mauled and doesn't do anything about the problem that THE ROAD IS FULL OF A LION.
Er, I seem to be full of metaphors this morning. Sorry.
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